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What do kids like and dislike about school? This is why it matters – and we can do something about it

<p><em>&OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;School SUX<&sol;em>&excl;”<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>We’ve all heard it and some of us have felt it&period; It’s such a common sentiment that parents and teachers might be tempted to dismiss it&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>After all&comma; school is good for you&excl; Like vegetables&period; It is something you have to have&comma; whether you like it or not&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>But does the intrinsic &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;good” and compulsory nature of school education mean we should ignore students who say they don’t like it&quest; Or that we shouldn’t try to make it more palatable&quest;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Feeling positive about school is associated with <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;researchgate&period;net&sol;publication&sol;258506119&lowbar;Persistent&lowbar;Absenteeism&lowbar;among&lowbar;Irish&lowbar;Primary&lowbar;School&lowbar;Pupils">higher attendance<&sol;a>&comma; better classroom adjustment and <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;jstor&period;org&sol;stable&sol;23093716">engagement<&sol;a>&comma; and higher <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;sciencedirect&period;com&sol;science&sol;article&sol;abs&sol;pii&sol;S0140197113000390">academic achievement<&sol;a>&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Students don’t have to <em>love<&sol;em> school to experience these benefits&period; Even those who like school will dislike aspects of it&colon; subjects they aren’t good at&comma; having to get up early&comma; lack of tuckshop options&comma; and so on&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>But&comma; for some students&comma; dislike for school can become pervasive – they dislike almost everything about it&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Some of these students may <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;pubmed&period;ncbi&period;nlm&period;nih&period;gov&sol;17367730&sol;">drop out<&sol;a> of school&comma; which has serious implications for their future job prospects&comma; financial security and quality of life&period; So&comma; yes&comma; it matters a great deal if students don’t like school and it’s important to know <em>why<&sol;em>&comma; so we can do something about it&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<h2>How did we research dislike for school&quest;<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<p>Our <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;frontiersin&period;org&sol;articles&sol;10&period;3389&sol;fpsyg&period;2022&period;825036&sol;full">recent study<&sol;a> investigated associations between school liking and factors that previous research suggests make students more likely to stay in school or leave&colon; teacher <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;link&period;springer&period;com&sol;article&sol;10&period;1007&sol;s10648-016-9389-8">support<&sol;a>&comma; connectedness to <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;sciencedirect&period;com&sol;science&sol;article&sol;pii&sol;S1054139X06004228&quest;via&percnt;3Dihub">school<&sol;a>&comma; and the use of detentions&comma; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;journals&period;sagepub&period;com&sol;doi&sol;10&period;1177&sol;0038040718816684">suspensions<&sol;a> and expulsions&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Our aim was to learn how we might be able to improve schooling from the perspective of students who like it the least&period; We surveyed 1&comma;002 students in grades 7-10 from three complex secondary schools&period; These are the grades and types of schools with the highest suspension and lowest retention rates&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>We wanted to find out how these students feel about school and teachers&comma; as well as their experiences of exclusionary discipline&comma; and whether there were important differences between those who said they did and did not like school&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<h2>What did we find&quest;<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<p>The good news is that two-thirds of our study sample said they like school&period; Almost half of these students said they had always liked it&period; One of them said&colon;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<blockquote>&NewLine;<p>&OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;Love it&period; I’d prefer to live at school&period; Like&comma; if Hogwarts was an actual place&comma; I’d go there&period;”<&sol;p>&NewLine;<&sol;blockquote>&NewLine;<p>Worryingly&comma; one-third of students said they do not like school&period; Although school liking was highest in grade 7&comma; most students indicated their dislike began in the transition to high school&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<blockquote>&NewLine;<p>&OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;Yeah&comma; it was probably as soon as I hit high school&period; Year 7 things got a lot harder&period;”<&sol;p>&NewLine;<&sol;blockquote>&NewLine;<p>This dislike appears to increase over time&comma; with grade 9 having the highest proportion of dislikers&period; These patterns correspond with suspension rates&comma; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;eprints&period;qut&period;edu&period;au&sol;125844&sol;1&sol;IJIE&lowbar;Suspension&percnt;20in&percnt;20QLD&percnt;202006-2017&lowbar;FINAL&period;pdf">which double in grade 7 and peak in grade 9<&sol;a>&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<figure class&equals;"align-center zoomable"><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;465419&sol;original&sol;file-20220526-24-ncc005&period;png&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;45&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;1000&amp&semi;fit&equals;clip"><img src&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;465419&sol;original&sol;file-20220526-24-ncc005&period;png&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;45&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;754&amp&semi;fit&equals;clip" sizes&equals;"&lpar;min-width&colon; 1466px&rpar; 754px&comma; &lpar;max-width&colon; 599px&rpar; 100vw&comma; &lpar;min-width&colon; 600px&rpar; 600px&comma; 237px" srcset&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;465419&sol;original&sol;file-20220526-24-ncc005&period;png&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;45&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;600&amp&semi;h&equals;230&amp&semi;fit&equals;crop&amp&semi;dpr&equals;1 600w&comma; https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;465419&sol;original&sol;file-20220526-24-ncc005&period;png&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;30&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;600&amp&semi;h&equals;230&amp&semi;fit&equals;crop&amp&semi;dpr&equals;2 1200w&comma; https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;465419&sol;original&sol;file-20220526-24-ncc005&period;png&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;15&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;600&amp&semi;h&equals;230&amp&semi;fit&equals;crop&amp&semi;dpr&equals;3 1800w&comma; https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;465419&sol;original&sol;file-20220526-24-ncc005&period;png&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;45&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;754&amp&semi;h&equals;289&amp&semi;fit&equals;crop&amp&semi;dpr&equals;1 754w&comma; https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;465419&sol;original&sol;file-20220526-24-ncc005&period;png&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;30&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;754&amp&semi;h&equals;289&amp&semi;fit&equals;crop&amp&semi;dpr&equals;2 1508w&comma; https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;465419&sol;original&sol;file-20220526-24-ncc005&period;png&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;15&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;754&amp&semi;h&equals;289&amp&semi;fit&equals;crop&amp&semi;dpr&equals;3 2262w" alt&equals;"Table showing grade levels and percentages of students who said dislike of school started in those years" &sol;><&sol;a><figcaption><span class&equals;"attribution"><a class&equals;"source" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;frontiersin&period;org&sol;articles&sol;10&period;3389&sol;fpsyg&period;2022&period;825036&sol;full&num;A1">Source&colon; L&period; Graham et al&comma; Frontiers in Psychology&comma; 2022<&sol;a>&comma; <span class&equals;"license">Author provided<&sol;span><&sol;span><&sol;figcaption><&sol;figure>&NewLine;<h2>What do students like and dislike most&quest;<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<p>Our suspicion that students in these two groups like and dislike different things about school proved correct&period; While &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;friends” was the most-liked aspect of school for both groups&comma; a much higher proportion of school likers than dislikers chose &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;learning”&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<blockquote>&NewLine;<p>&OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;I feel like every day I go to school&comma; I just flex my knowledge&period; I like to learn&period; Learning’s alright&period;”<&sol;p>&NewLine;<&sol;blockquote>&NewLine;<p>By contrast&comma; a much higher proportion of dislikers chose &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;breaktime” as their most-liked aspect&period; The attraction became clearer through interviews&colon;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<blockquote>&NewLine;<p>&OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;What do you like most about school&quest;” &lbrack;…&rsqb; &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;Break&period; So I get to see my friends&period;”<&sol;p>&NewLine;<&sol;blockquote>&NewLine;<p><iframe id&equals;"datawrapper-chart-vevYQ" style&equals;"border&colon; none&semi;" title&equals;"Most-liked aspects of school for school likers and dislikers" src&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;datawrapper&period;dwcdn&period;net&sol;vevYQ&sol;3&sol;" width&equals;"100&percnt;" height&equals;"400" frameborder&equals;"0" scrolling&equals;"no" aria-label&equals;"Grouped Column Chart"><&sol;iframe><&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>A similar pattern emerged for the least-liked aspects of school&period; A much higher proportion of dislikers than likers selected schoolwork&comma; teachers and discipline policy as the aspects they disliked most&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<blockquote>&NewLine;<p>&OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;Pretty much work&comma; because they give you all the assessments and expect it to be done so quick &lbrack;…&rsqb;”<&sol;p>&NewLine;<&sol;blockquote>&NewLine;<p>These findings are fairly intuitive and resonate with <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;eprints&period;qut&period;edu&period;au&sol;125846&sol;14&sol;GrahamVanBergen&lowbar;Sweller&lowbar;Caught&lowbar;between&lowbar;a&lowbar;rock&lowbar;a&lowbar;hard&lowbar;place&lowbar;FINAL&lowbar;pdf&period;pdf">previous research<&sol;a> with students with a history of disruptive behaviour who also nominated schoolwork and teachers&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>The previous study found an interesting connection between the two&period; Students who find learning difficult will often clash with teachers whose job it is to make them do their work&period; Some teachers are kinder and more supportive in how they do that than others&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>High school is especially difficult for these students because they have to navigate more teachers and are not good at &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;code-switching” to meet diverse rules and expectations&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<blockquote>&NewLine;<p>&OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;It was hard because you go from having a teacher the whole term who would let you do stuff and then if you tried to do that in another class&comma; it would just be like no&comma; you can’t do that&period; Yeah&comma; and they just yell at you&period;”<&sol;p>&NewLine;<&sol;blockquote>&NewLine;<p><iframe id&equals;"datawrapper-chart-GJPZh" style&equals;"border&colon; none&semi;" title&equals;"Least-liked aspects of school for school likers and dislikers" src&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;datawrapper&period;dwcdn&period;net&sol;GJPZh&sol;1&sol;" width&equals;"100&percnt;" height&equals;"400" frameborder&equals;"0" scrolling&equals;"no" aria-label&equals;"Grouped Column Chart"><&sol;iframe><&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Students who clash with teachers also tend also to experience exclusionary discipline&period; In our sample&comma; not liking school was significantly associated with having received a detention&comma; suspension or expulsion in the past 12 months&period; Forty-one percent of dislikers reported having been suspended &lpar;versus 14&percnt; of likers&rpar;&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Our analyses also found large differences in students’ ratings of teacher support&period; Dislikers provided lower ratings on every item&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>The highest-rated item for both groups was&colon; &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;My teacher always wants me to do my best&period;” The lowest was&colon; &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;My teacher has time for me&period;” The largest difference between groups was for &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;My teacher listens to me&period;”<&sol;p>&NewLine;<h2>What can schools do&quest;<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<p>Relationships between teachers and students <em>can<&sol;em> be improved and educators do not have to wait for governments to act&period; A simple start would be for school leaders to implement <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;research&period;qut&period;edu&period;au&sol;c4ie&sol;wp-content&sol;uploads&sol;sites&sol;281&sol;2022&sol;02&sol;Practice-Guide-Student-Driven-School-Change&period;pdf">student-driven school change<&sol;a> to address issues from the perspective of <em>all<&sol;em> students&comma; but especially those who say they least want to be there&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>As for government policy&comma; the findings from our study highlight one possibility for consideration&period; When Queensland <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;search&period;informit&period;org&sol;doi&sol;epdf&sol;10&period;3316&sol;informit&period;360099246761570">shifted<&sol;a> grade 7 from the primary phase to the secondary phase in 2015&comma; steps were takens to better support children in their first year of high school&period; Support included a core teacher model&comma; when one teacher takes the same students for English and humanities or maths and science&comma; reducing the number of teachers that students have to navigate&comma; and dedicated play areas for grade 7 students to help reduce anxiety&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>The findings from our study of three Queensland secondary schools suggest that initiative may have had some success for up two-thirds of grade 7 students at least&period; Yet&comma; if school liking declines in grades 8 and beyond&comma; mirroring the rise in suspensions&comma; is it not time to consider whether grade 8s and 9s may benefit from more intensive pastoral care&quest;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>We could always ask them&excl;<&excl;-- Below is The Conversation's page counter tag&period; Please DO NOT REMOVE&period; --><img style&equals;"border&colon; none &excl;important&semi; box-shadow&colon; none &excl;important&semi; margin&colon; 0 &excl;important&semi; max-height&colon; 1px &excl;important&semi; max-width&colon; 1px &excl;important&semi; min-height&colon; 1px &excl;important&semi; min-width&colon; 1px &excl;important&semi; opacity&colon; 0 &excl;important&semi; outline&colon; none &excl;important&semi; padding&colon; 0 &excl;important&semi;" src&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;counter&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;content&sol;179944&sol;count&period;gif&quest;distributor&equals;republish-lightbox-basic" alt&equals;"The Conversation" width&equals;"1" height&equals;"1" &sol;><&excl;-- End of code&period; If you don't see any code above&comma; please get new code from the Advanced tab after you click the republish button&period; The page counter does not collect any personal data&period; More info&colon; https&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com&sol;republishing-guidelines --><&sol;p>&NewLine;<h6><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com&sol;profiles&sol;linda-j-graham-125749">Linda J&period; Graham<&sol;a>&comma; Professor and Director of the Centre for Inclusive Education&comma; <em><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com&sol;institutions&sol;queensland-university-of-technology-847">Queensland University of Technology<&sol;a><&sol;em>&semi; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com&sol;profiles&sol;callula-killingly-1264390">Callula Killingly<&sol;a>&comma; Postdoctoral Research Fellow&comma; Centre for Inclusive Education&comma; <em><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com&sol;institutions&sol;queensland-university-of-technology-847">Queensland University of Technology<&sol;a><&sol;em>&semi; <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com&sol;profiles&sol;jenna-gillett-swan-225808">Jenna Gillett-Swan<&sol;a>&comma; Associate Professor in Education&comma; Wellbeing and Children&&num;8217&semi;s Rights&comma; <em><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com&sol;institutions&sol;queensland-university-of-technology-847">Queensland University of Technology<&sol;a><&sol;em>&comma; and <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com&sol;profiles&sol;penny-van-bergen-146198">Penny Van Bergen<&sol;a>&comma; Professor in Educational Psychology&comma; <em><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com&sol;institutions&sol;university-of-wollongong-711">University of Wollongong&period; <&sol;a><&sol;em>This article is republished from <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com">The Conversation<&sol;a> under a Creative Commons license&period; Read the <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com&sol;what-do-kids-like-and-dislike-about-school-this-is-why-it-matters-and-we-can-do-something-about-it-179944">original article<&sol;a>&period;<&sol;h6>&NewLine;

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