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John Marsden says parents and schools are failing kids, but his book offers little evidence

<h2>There is cause for concern for Australia’s young people with figures indicating they are experiencing the highest levels of <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;missionaustralia&period;com&period;au&sol;publications&sol;youth-survey&sol;823-mission-australia-youth-survey-report-2018">anxiety and stress<&sol;a>&comma; and <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;beyondblue&period;org&period;au&sol;media&sol;statistics">suicide<&sol;a> than ever before&period;<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<p>Writer and teacher <a href&equals;"http&colon;&sol;&sol;johnmarsden&period;com&period;au&sol;about&period;html">John Marsden<&sol;a> says poor youth outcomes are from toxic parenting and ineffective schools&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>That’s the key premise of his new book <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;goodreads&period;com&sol;book&sol;show&sol;45712595-the-art-of-growing-up">The Art of Growing Up<&sol;a>&comma; his manifesto for growing up in the 21st century based on his experience in schools as a teacher and principal&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<h2>Blame the parents<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<p>In the book&comma; Marsden writes&colon;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<blockquote>&NewLine;&lbrack;…&rsqb; we are seeing an epidemic in damaging parenting at the moment&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<&sol;blockquote>&NewLine;<p>His key criticisms are that parents are too controlling or too lax&comma; children are overindulged&comma; overprotected and overpraised&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Marsden is correct in saying lax or controlling parenting leads to negative outcomes in young people&period; <a title&equals;"The Influence of Parenting Style on Adolescent Competence and Substance Use" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;journals&period;sagepub&period;com&sol;doi&sol;abs&sol;10&period;1177&sol;0272431691111004">Research<&sol;a> shows adolescents are better if parents are authoritative rather than authoritarian or permissive&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>But when providing advice&comma; Marsden is contradictory in how parents should reach this ideal version of parenting&period; He criticises parents for setting rules and telling children what to do&comma; and then says parents should say &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;no” more often and &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;mature adults must be in charge”&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>It is difficult to imagine how parents can be in charge if they do not have any rules to &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;say no to”&period; While I think his intention was to critique meaningless and excessive rules&comma; and encourage parent authority&comma; the message for parents is left unclear&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<h2>Overprotective parents<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<p>Another concern of Marsden is the helicopter or curling parent – the one that hovers over the child checking their path is clear for success&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>This is also called overparenting&comma; whereby parents try to manage the emotions of children and adolescents&comma; provide too much advice&comma; and overprotect&period; There is evidence overparenting leads to negative outcomes for young people&comma; including increased feelings of entitlement and anxiety for children and adolescence that <a title&equals;"The Association Between Overparenting&comma; Parent-Child Communication&comma; and Entitlement and Adaptive Traits in Adult Children" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;arizona&period;pure&period;elsevier&period;com&sol;en&sol;publications&sol;the-association-between-overparenting-parent-child-communication-">can persist in adulthood<&sol;a>&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<figure class&equals;"align-right zoomable"><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;286998&sol;original&sol;file-20190806-36353-1&fjlig;31v9&period;jpg&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;45&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;1000&amp&semi;fit&equals;clip"><img src&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;286998&sol;original&sol;file-20190806-36353-1&fjlig;31v9&period;jpg&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;45&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;237&amp&semi;fit&equals;clip" sizes&equals;"&lpar;min-width&colon; 1466px&rpar; 754px&comma; &lpar;max-width&colon; 599px&rpar; 100vw&comma; &lpar;min-width&colon; 600px&rpar; 600px&comma; 237px" srcset&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;286998&sol;original&sol;file-20190806-36353-1&fjlig;31v9&period;jpg&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;45&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;600&amp&semi;h&equals;906&amp&semi;fit&equals;crop&amp&semi;dpr&equals;1 600w&comma; https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;286998&sol;original&sol;file-20190806-36353-1&fjlig;31v9&period;jpg&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;30&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;600&amp&semi;h&equals;906&amp&semi;fit&equals;crop&amp&semi;dpr&equals;2 1200w&comma; https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;286998&sol;original&sol;file-20190806-36353-1&fjlig;31v9&period;jpg&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;15&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;600&amp&semi;h&equals;906&amp&semi;fit&equals;crop&amp&semi;dpr&equals;3 1800w&comma; https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;286998&sol;original&sol;file-20190806-36353-1&fjlig;31v9&period;jpg&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;45&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;754&amp&semi;h&equals;1139&amp&semi;fit&equals;crop&amp&semi;dpr&equals;1 754w&comma; https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;286998&sol;original&sol;file-20190806-36353-1&fjlig;31v9&period;jpg&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;30&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;754&amp&semi;h&equals;1139&amp&semi;fit&equals;crop&amp&semi;dpr&equals;2 1508w&comma; https&colon;&sol;&sol;images&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;files&sol;286998&sol;original&sol;file-20190806-36353-1&fjlig;31v9&period;jpg&quest;ixlib&equals;rb-1&period;1&period;0&amp&semi;q&equals;15&amp&semi;auto&equals;format&amp&semi;w&equals;754&amp&semi;h&equals;1139&amp&semi;fit&equals;crop&amp&semi;dpr&equals;3 2262w" alt&equals;"" &sol;><&sol;a><figcaption><span class&equals;"attribution"><a class&equals;"source" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;panmacmillan&period;com&period;au&sol;9781760556723&sol;">Pan Macmillan<&sol;a><&sol;span><&sol;figcaption><&sol;figure>&NewLine;<p>Marsden is correct in suggesting normal challenge is good for young people&comma; and therefore saving them from it is not helping them&period; <a title&equals;"Annual Research Review&colon; Resilience--clinical implications" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;ico&period;org&period;uk&sol;media&sol;2260255&sol;child-development-expert-b-additional-attachment-r17-00633&lowbar;q5&period;pdf">Resilience comes from brief exposure to challenges<&sol;a>&comma; not the avoidance of them&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Overprotective parents subvert this process and in turn young people do not develop their own skills to face challenge&comma; as they are reliant on their parents&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Marsden also believes overprotective parents protect children from the experience of negative emotions&comma; believe their children are perfect and &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;special”&comma; and that &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;these inner kids don’t throw a shadow”&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;psychologytoday&period;com&sol;au&sol;blog&sol;mindful-musings&sol;201611&sol;3-reasons-let-yourself-feel-your-emotions">All emotions are important<&sol;a> for healthy development&period; Happiness&comma; as Marsden writes&comma; is relative&period; We only experience happiness when we know what unhappiness is&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>While anecdotes can be powerful&comma; Marsden does not provide evidence these parenting practices have increased&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<h2>Ineffective schools<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<p>Marsden says many truths about what is required for schools to be effective – ideas like partaking in real experiences&comma; allowing boredom&comma; giving children agency&comma; and developing belonging and community in schools&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>These ideas are all evident in <a title&equals;"Embodied Learning" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;tandfonline&period;com&sol;doi&sol;abs&sol;10&period;1080&sol;00131857&period;2013&period;879694">research<&sol;a> and none are new&comma; but possibly they have been forgotten or relegated to &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;old fashioned” and therefore not relevant&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>For example&comma; the state of boredom &lpar;not trait&rpar; indicates a need to <a title&equals;"Boredom&colon; What Is It Good For&quest;" href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;link&period;springer&period;com&sol;chapter&sol;10&period;1007&sol;978-3-319-77619-4&lowbar;6">self-regulate and change<&sol;a>&period; If parents or schools try to eliminate boredom in young people by overscheduling or over entertaining then they have become responsible for the self-regulation not the child&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Boredom produces a level of <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;researchgate&period;net&sol;profile&sol;Lia&lowbar;Daniels&sol;publication&sol;276865713&lowbar;Evaluating&lowbar;the&lowbar;Relationship&lowbar;Between&lowbar;Boredom&lowbar;and&lowbar;Academic&lowbar;Outcomes&lowbar;A&lowbar;Meta-Analysis&sol;links&sol;561e749508aec7945a26b311&period;pdf">emotional discomfort<&sol;a>&comma; but as Marsden is trying to suggest&comma; that does not mean adults need to schedule it away&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Marsden’s comment that most bullying can be prompted by &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;unlikeable behaviours” of the victim appears to have <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;smh&period;com&period;au&sol;entertainment&sol;books&sol;don-t-care-really-what-people-think-john-marsden-defends-view-of-bullying-20190723-p529z9&period;html">gained the greatest traction<&sol;a>&comma; but it is a minor point in the book&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Marsden is only suggesting children self-reflect on their role in interactions&comma; and this is a useful behaviour for all humans&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>Accurately reflecting on our own behaviours is a powerful <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;www&period;scottdmiller&period;com&sol;wp-content&sol;uploads&sol;2014&sol;06&sol;Supershrinks-Free-Report-1&period;pdf">foundation for change<&sol;a>&period; The problem&comma; as with many of the statements made in the book&comma; it lacks context&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<h2>Hidden truths<&sol;h2>&NewLine;<p>The numerous contradictions&comma; absolutes and lack of evidence across the book hide some of the truths Marsden has rightfully identified in his experience&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>While I don’t negate the importance of our own experience in informing our understandings&comma; experience tends be biased and defined by our own context&period; Perhaps Marsden is trying to sensationalise some ideas to awaken us&period; It has certainly started a conversation&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>One of these contradictions is his statement that adolescents are more compassionate&comma; empathetic and aware in the 21st Century&period; Shouldn’t that mean parents and schools are doing a great job&quest;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>He also says Australian schools have made improvements in creativity&comma; emotional intelligence&comma; and social intelligence among other gains&period; Again&comma; there is no research to support this and if this is the case&comma; it contradicts his statement that &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;schools are still sitting in the driveway&comma; belching out toxic gas”&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>What concerns me most is statements like &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;the emptiness inside damaged children was so vast that nothing&comma; nothing&comma; could fill it” because it implies there’s no recovery from trauma and that toxic parents are responsible for all negative outcomes in young people&period;<&sol;p>&NewLine;<p>These absolutes can keep people stuck where they are&period; Parents need support from the community&comma; not further accusations from professionals and academics&period; While Marsden does not believe the assumption &OpenCurlyDoubleQuote;all parents have their &lbrack;kids’&rsqb; best interests at heart”&comma; I do&period;<&excl;-- Below is The Conversation's page counter tag&period; Please DO NOT REMOVE&period; --><img style&equals;"border&colon; none &excl;important&semi; box-shadow&colon; none &excl;important&semi; margin&colon; 0 &excl;important&semi; max-height&colon; 1px &excl;important&semi; max-width&colon; 1px &excl;important&semi; min-height&colon; 1px &excl;important&semi; min-width&colon; 1px &excl;important&semi; opacity&colon; 0 &excl;important&semi; outline&colon; none &excl;important&semi; padding&colon; 0 &excl;important&semi; text-shadow&colon; none &excl;important&semi;" src&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;counter&period;theconversation&period;com&sol;content&sol;121124&sol;count&period;gif&quest;distributor&equals;republish-lightbox-basic" alt&equals;"The Conversation" width&equals;"1" height&equals;"1" &sol;><&excl;-- End of code&period; If you don't see any code above&comma; please get new code from the Advanced tab after you click the republish button&period; The page counter does not collect any personal data&period; More info&colon; http&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com&sol;republishing-guidelines --><&sol;p>&NewLine;<h6><a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com&sol;profiles&sol;mandie-shean-199959">Mandie Shean<&sol;a>&comma; Lecturer&comma; School of Education&comma; <em><a href&equals;"http&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com&sol;institutions&sol;edith-cowan-university-720">Edith Cowan University&period; <&sol;a><&sol;em>This article is republished from <a href&equals;"http&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com">The Conversation<&sol;a> under a Creative Commons license&period; Read the <a href&equals;"https&colon;&sol;&sol;theconversation&period;com&sol;john-marsden-says-parents-and-schools-are-failing-kids-but-his-book-offers-little-evidence-121124">original article<&sol;a>&period;<&sol;h6>&NewLine;

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